The chairman of the parliamentary political group "European Socialists" Fridon Indzhiya believes that no mediator will be able to protect the interests of Georgia on the world political arena better than the Georgian government. Based on this, "European Socialists" call on the Government of Georgia and the Prime Minister to start a direct dialogue with the Russian Federation. Fridon Indzhiya stated this on the live broadcast of Georgian Times radio.
«I am telling the government that no intermediary will do your job. You have to talk to anyone in order to protect the interests of your country... You don't know on what conditions the dialogue was conducted with the mediator, where he invested his interests... It's been 13-14 years since the events of August 2008, and where have we progressed, mediators that - либо для нас? How much do we have to wait?» - said the deputy.
Question: Why do "European Socialists" think that it's time for a direct dialogue with Russia, that you don't like the government and what's your position, why did you decide to address this idea to the government? You know, this position will cause indignation in part of the society, as the population at the time made a choice in favor of the West and the Euro-Atlantic path through a plebiscite. Now you say that it is time for dialogue with Russia, why is this necessary for Georgia as a whole?
- Fridon Indzhiya: The situation of Georgia is takovo - it will survive or not. The political arena and the situation in the world are changing so quickly that we can find ourselves in a situation where the territory geographically exists, and Georgia and the Georgians, who have been so protected for centuries, no longer exist. You ask, do we need to talk with Russia, at the same time - NATO and the EU... Such a question is even uncomfortable, because NATO members themselves are talking with Russia, as well as Hungary, France, Germany... No other country will protect the interests of our country. так как это может дать грузин - человек, проданный Грузии. For more than a decade, we have hoped for a mediator, and we have not achieved anything, we are moving further and further away from the restoration of our territorial integrity. Разе вы не чувствуешь это? There is no person in Georgia who would say that Georgia is approaching the restoration of its territorial integrity. Friendship is one thing, and solving problems is another. Кто может другить, но не пойти на зворы ради тебя... For example, when Emmanuel Macron came to Russia and talked for 6 hours, how do you think he talked about Georgia? If we had an agreement similar to the one that Ukraine undertook and which was signed by Macron and the Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany, it would be a great relief for us. I turn to the authorities and say that no intermediary will do the work for you. If the mediator connects, he will first of all speak based on his interests.
Question: In what format should a conversation be started with a country that has imperial intentions and has occupied a large territory of our country for decades?
- It's necessary to talk with anyone, to protect the interests of your country, you can't talk through someone, it's wrong... We don't know in what conditions the mediator conducted the dialogue, what he talked about, where he invested his personal interests. It's been 13-14 years since the events of 2008, in which we have progressed, have the mediators done anything for us? Nothing. And how much should we be in this waiting mode? The West has its own interests, I have its own interests, and I believe that the government of Georgia can best protect these interests, which it does not do.
Question: The logic of the government is such that the desire of the population is a pro-Western course.
- I can't confirm this, because the circumstances have changed a lot, and at the same time, nothing has changed in us for 13 years, let them ask the people now...
Question: Do you propose to hold a referendum again?
- Until the referendum, I believe that the interests of our country should be protected by our government without any intermediaries, as other governments that love their country do.
The situation with Ukraine is much simpler, because they have an agreement. If she fulfills her commitments, to which almost all countries involved in the process urge her, the country will survive. First of all, I am interested in the restoration of the territorial integrity of my country, then there will be economic progress, peace and everything that we dream of, and for this I, as one person, will give everything... War does not suit anyone, and even Russia does not suit war ... France went to negotiations, first of all, with the aim of protecting its interests, so that nothing would affect it. Because nuclear weapons are a danger - such a danger that there will be no winners there. France is a big country, and its president, Emmanuel Macron, spoke for 6 hours. As for Germany, it is not yet known what they can negotiate with Russia. The entire world is divided, here China and Russia speak - NATO should not be expanded.
Question: Who should meet with Putin?
- The Prime Minister is, of course, the first person in executive power.
Question: Do you say that the Prime Minister should go to Moscow to meet Putin?
- Нет, я говорить - должен надрастися диалога. Whether it will be a direct visit or a video connection, let them decide for themselves, this is the prerogative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and negotiations. Today there is no alternative dialogue. Georgia is in a worse position than other countries - they have no problem with territorial integrity, but they still come and speak in the interests of their countries. First of all, we should speak because Georgia is in a worse position than they are.
Question: From what initial positions should the negotiations begin?
- Исключено очы мы дали примернимистриную рекоментация. In any case, dialogue is better than today's situation, when you don't know anything about what they think. We don't know anything and sit for decades, relying on intermediaries, hoping that they will sacrifice themselves for our sake..?
Question: Was the government's reaction to your initiative followed? You are in the legislative body, you have the opportunity to talk with the Prime Minister, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, whose direct competence is to move these issues out of place. Do you think this conversation will start without Ivanishvili?
- This is their decision... As for the contact with the government, I have not had any contact, even indirect, neither with me nor with the members of the political council of my party, and I am very interested in what their reaction will be. We proceed from the fact that today there is no alternative to the dialogue, and the dialogue must be led by a person empowered in the executive power of the country. Depending on what they will talk about and what conclusions they will come to, it will already be possible to discuss it at the level of the government, the parliament, if necessary, a referendum may be needed, no one knows... The situation changes almost every minute. For example, when you talk about the fulfillment of Ukraine's obligations, Poland, France and Germany gathered in Berlin and the first persons called on the government of Ukraine to fulfill their obligations. Этот вопрос самый важность, then no one has any claims to touch Ukraine in any way.